Subject: Turnovers Kill! In a Bucs Panthers game (I was the Panthers) the Panthers lose 55-40. Chris Wenke (who should be bagging in a local A & P) threw three touchdowns each returned for TDs. If it wasn't for that I would have won and would not be the only ass hole in this league with 5 losses. In the words of the ever fat John Madden "The QB just has to give some more zip on the ball or the defense is going eat him up" and that is what happend and that is why I lost and that is why I remain the league toilet paper. But the season is not even half over and the Pats will come on strong to suprise ALL OF YOU! Watch your collective asses. So keep playing I want to start week 9 soon! Ben